1 00:00:03,379 --> 00:00:01,969 well I want to cover some of the issues 2 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:03,389 that we deal with in remote viewing of 3 00:00:06,559 --> 00:00:05,130 viewing so-called anomalous 4 00:00:07,849 --> 00:00:06,569 targets you know because we view all 5 00:00:09,770 --> 00:00:07,859 sorts of different things and it raises 6 00:00:11,060 --> 00:00:09,780 different issues and you know a lot of 7 00:00:12,890 --> 00:00:11,070 people think sometimes if you just 8 00:00:13,999 --> 00:00:12,900 remote view something it's going to give 9 00:00:15,589 --> 00:00:14,009 you all the answers you need and that's 10 00:00:16,910 --> 00:00:15,599 the end of it and it's really much more 11 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:16,920 complicating that I want to show you why 12 00:00:21,830 --> 00:00:18,930 we know that remote viewing I mean 13 00:00:24,980 --> 00:00:21,840 however it actually works our minds like 14 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:24,990 fun at least our conscious mind and no 15 00:00:29,750 --> 00:00:26,730 spawn point out a couple of years ago at 16 00:00:31,820 --> 00:00:29,760 one of the RV conferences our mind takes 17 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:31,830 in about 40 million bits of information 18 00:00:35,690 --> 00:00:33,930 a second but only about 16 bits of that 19 00:00:37,340 --> 00:00:35,700 is in your conscious mind the rest is 20 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:37,350 goes somewhere else it's deleted it's in 21 00:00:41,869 --> 00:00:39,930 your subconscious mind and that's why 22 00:00:44,030 --> 00:00:41,879 you only perceive a very small sliver of 23 00:00:44,959 --> 00:00:44,040 reality when you're awake but we know 24 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:44,969 that there's a lot more and 25 00:00:49,160 --> 00:00:47,450 remote-viewing taps into this 26 00:00:51,110 --> 00:00:49,170 information that's hidden from the 27 00:00:52,639 --> 00:00:51,120 conscious mind by going below the level 28 00:00:54,410 --> 00:00:52,649 of the lemon the threshold of awareness 29 00:00:56,180 --> 00:00:54,420 we can get more information than you 30 00:00:57,799 --> 00:00:56,190 think you have available to you by 31 00:01:01,580 --> 00:00:57,809 tapping into the right brain the 32 00:01:03,799 --> 00:01:01,590 subconscious mind now when we view we 33 00:01:05,539 --> 00:01:03,809 typically use a target that we put in a 34 00:01:07,250 --> 00:01:05,549 folder or we have a computer choose it 35 00:01:08,359 --> 00:01:07,260 and it's not shown to the viewer ahead 36 00:01:09,830 --> 00:01:08,369 of time it's called a blind target 37 00:01:11,210 --> 00:01:09,840 you've seen this before so we're not 38 00:01:12,950 --> 00:01:11,220 going to spend too much time on this but 39 00:01:14,570 --> 00:01:12,960 we have an intended target and then we 40 00:01:16,340 --> 00:01:14,580 have the viewer session the viewers 41 00:01:17,630 --> 00:01:16,350 description if it works well you can see 42 00:01:19,580 --> 00:01:17,640 that they get a very good description of 43 00:01:22,359 --> 00:01:19,590 the target picture and when we're 44 00:01:24,830 --> 00:01:22,369 dealing with verifiable targets that are 45 00:01:27,350 --> 00:01:24,840 kind of things that we visited places 46 00:01:28,700 --> 00:01:27,360 we've been to before we know kind of 47 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:28,710 what the viewer is getting in kind of 48 00:01:34,190 --> 00:01:30,570 sense if they're kind of on target or 49 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:34,200 kind of off target so typical targets 50 00:01:39,649 --> 00:01:36,890 are kind of easier to deal with because 51 00:01:43,490 --> 00:01:39,659 we can kind of verify if the viewer has 52 00:01:44,719 --> 00:01:43,500 actually gotten accurate results but 53 00:01:46,310 --> 00:01:44,729 what do we do with other sorts of 54 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:46,320 targets when we put our minds our 55 00:01:50,990 --> 00:01:48,450 subspace minds our remote viewing minds 56 00:01:53,630 --> 00:01:51,000 into off-planet targets other sorts of 57 00:01:56,090 --> 00:01:53,640 places locations people's and events 58 00:01:58,249 --> 00:01:56,100 where we can't actually go there 59 00:02:00,920 --> 00:01:58,259 ourselves and get verification is this 60 00:02:03,109 --> 00:02:00,930 is this a face as some people have 61 00:02:04,940 --> 00:02:03,119 argued or is it just a pile of rocks we 62 00:02:06,230 --> 00:02:04,950 could take remote viewers and send them 63 00:02:09,619 --> 00:02:06,240 there and see what results we get 64 00:02:10,669 --> 00:02:09,629 theoretically and get a sense of what 65 00:02:13,130 --> 00:02:10,679 actually we're looking at here we've 66 00:02:14,510 --> 00:02:13,140 some of us have heard Tom Van Flandern 67 00:02:15,890 --> 00:02:14,520 presented evidence that there's 68 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:15,900 something to do with the way the cameras 69 00:02:18,920 --> 00:02:17,850 are focused from the NASA orbiters and 70 00:02:20,900 --> 00:02:18,930 it kind of makes it look different in so 71 00:02:22,220 --> 00:02:20,910 forth but this is the typically the type 72 00:02:23,930 --> 00:02:22,230 of question we want to look at when 73 00:02:26,660 --> 00:02:23,940 we're viewing so-called anomalous 74 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:26,670 targets now there are three phases of 75 00:02:30,290 --> 00:02:28,410 viewing anomalous targets or 76 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:30,300 extraterrestrial types of information 77 00:02:32,510 --> 00:02:32,130 that I can perceive and this is very 78 00:02:35,510 --> 00:02:32,520 basic 79 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:35,520 we have sr i-- and unofficial military 80 00:02:40,640 --> 00:02:38,490 projects from folks like pat price and 81 00:02:42,199 --> 00:02:40,650 Ingo Swann and others and again those 82 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:42,209 are unofficial projects they're just 83 00:02:46,970 --> 00:02:44,010 things that were done on their own for 84 00:02:48,979 --> 00:02:46,980 their own interest from my knowledge we 85 00:02:50,300 --> 00:02:48,989 have post military civilian projects 86 00:02:52,310 --> 00:02:50,310 like what occurred at the farside 87 00:02:54,979 --> 00:02:52,320 Institute which I was a participant in 88 00:02:57,259 --> 00:02:54,989 which included off and on Planet X a 89 00:02:59,540 --> 00:02:57,269 terrestrial activity a lot of those 90 00:03:01,460 --> 00:02:59,550 themes were continued from former 91 00:03:02,810 --> 00:03:01,470 military viewing unofficial projects 92 00:03:04,490 --> 00:03:02,820 that folks there had gotten interested 93 00:03:06,259 --> 00:03:04,500 in and the third face that I can 94 00:03:09,020 --> 00:03:06,269 perceive most recently are UFO crash 95 00:03:11,350 --> 00:03:09,030 retrievals including and they're 96 00:03:15,110 --> 00:03:11,360 probably more than this Devil's Hole 97 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:15,120 crash in Nevada in 1949 that was some 98 00:03:19,759 --> 00:03:17,250 prospector saw and the desert range 99 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:19,769 experimental station in Utah from 1953 100 00:03:23,750 --> 00:03:20,970 which we'll look at in a second 101 00:03:27,410 --> 00:03:23,760 so if we look at Pat price here in the 102 00:03:29,420 --> 00:03:27,420 center he was a very accurate viewer one 103 00:03:31,940 --> 00:03:29,430 of the most accurate viewers that most 104 00:03:33,140 --> 00:03:31,950 people ever know and in this just to 105 00:03:35,569 --> 00:03:33,150 give you a sense of what he could do at 106 00:03:37,970 --> 00:03:35,579 this target site from semi peloton's the 107 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:37,980 so called p-nut site he was able to view 108 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:40,890 this gantry crane and Russell Targ and 109 00:03:43,460 --> 00:03:41,970 Paul Smith's can tell you more about 110 00:03:44,810 --> 00:03:43,470 this but he was able to actually see 111 00:03:47,210 --> 00:03:44,820 this site that the CIA was very 112 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:47,220 interested in now the CIA artist had 113 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:48,930 drawn this sketch here and he was able 114 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:50,370 to reproduce it he actually said 115 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:51,930 apparently that he was lying down and 116 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:53,370 could see this big crane going over him 117 00:03:57,800 --> 00:03:55,290 then he went into a building nearby that 118 00:03:59,960 --> 00:03:57,810 no one had information about and he died 119 00:04:02,060 --> 00:03:59,970 then later on a few years later 120 00:04:03,890 --> 00:04:02,070 apparently an agent was able to go into 121 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:03,900 that building and describe things that 122 00:04:07,490 --> 00:04:05,730 Pat price had seen which no one had seen 123 00:04:09,860 --> 00:04:07,500 it so we know he wasn't just viewing the 124 00:04:11,030 --> 00:04:09,870 feedback he actually was at the target 125 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:11,040 site in a sense it was able to walk 126 00:04:15,170 --> 00:04:13,170 around and get information now 127 00:04:17,659 --> 00:04:15,180 apparently according to the story he was 128 00:04:20,029 --> 00:04:17,669 able to one day he came in and he said 129 00:04:22,039 --> 00:04:20,039 that he had perceived four different 130 00:04:24,980 --> 00:04:22,049 extraterrestrial bases I think it was 131 00:04:27,379 --> 00:04:24,990 two to russell one of which was at mount 132 00:04:30,589 --> 00:04:27,389 Hayes mountains eel in 133 00:04:31,070 --> 00:04:30,599 Australia and Zimbabwe and a site in the 134 00:04:32,330 --> 00:04:31,080 Pyrenees 135 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:32,340 he said these were actually 136 00:04:36,230 --> 00:04:34,050 extraterrestrial bases with different 137 00:04:38,749 --> 00:04:36,240 functions one of which was rest and 138 00:04:41,540 --> 00:04:38,759 recreation another of these bases was a 139 00:04:44,390 --> 00:04:41,550 site for a training and so forth 140 00:04:46,010 --> 00:04:44,400 now other viewers later viewed this same 141 00:04:50,180 --> 00:04:46,020 locations and came to different 142 00:04:53,779 --> 00:04:50,190 conclusions Mel Reilly did see a person 143 00:04:55,100 --> 00:04:53,789 at a control panel and another viewer 144 00:04:57,200 --> 00:04:55,110 who I talked to said that these were 145 00:04:59,180 --> 00:04:57,210 correct locations but that these were 146 00:05:00,260 --> 00:04:59,190 actually over her eyes and radar 147 00:05:01,700 --> 00:05:00,270 installations they were not 148 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:01,710 extraterrestrial so what are you going 149 00:05:05,930 --> 00:05:03,210 to do with this we have one viewer very 150 00:05:07,459 --> 00:05:05,940 good top-notch reviewer who says that 151 00:05:09,890 --> 00:05:07,469 these are extraterrestrial bases another 152 00:05:11,779 --> 00:05:09,900 viewer equally good or perhaps at the 153 00:05:14,029 --> 00:05:11,789 same league says that these are actually 154 00:05:15,529 --> 00:05:14,039 US military installations so it really 155 00:05:16,939 --> 00:05:15,539 doesn't resolve what they actually are 156 00:05:19,570 --> 00:05:16,949 but apparently the locations are correct 157 00:05:23,959 --> 00:05:19,580 then we had some of Ingo Swann viewings 158 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:23,969 Ingo seen here in the center one of the 159 00:05:27,770 --> 00:05:25,770 first I would say kind of off-planet 160 00:05:30,559 --> 00:05:27,780 viewing projects that I know about he 161 00:05:31,999 --> 00:05:30,569 was able to view a Jupiter before the 162 00:05:35,300 --> 00:05:32,009 Voyager mission got out there I was able 163 00:05:37,370 --> 00:05:35,310 to describe features of Jupiter that had 164 00:05:39,110 --> 00:05:37,380 not been perceived yet including rings 165 00:05:40,580 --> 00:05:39,120 and later on Voyager did perceive that 166 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:40,590 so it showed that remote viewing does 167 00:05:45,439 --> 00:05:42,930 work even at very large distances he 168 00:05:47,540 --> 00:05:45,449 later wrote a book called penetration 169 00:05:50,629 --> 00:05:47,550 about extraterrestrial activity on the 170 00:05:54,890 --> 00:05:50,639 moon which he said he was commissioned 171 00:05:56,809 --> 00:05:54,900 to view for a Secret Intelligence Agency 172 00:05:58,730 --> 00:05:56,819 it's a very good book if you can get a 173 00:06:01,730 --> 00:05:58,740 hold of it it's out of print the events 174 00:06:05,180 --> 00:06:01,740 took place I believe in 1977 and he 175 00:06:07,070 --> 00:06:05,190 wrote the book in 1998 and in the book 176 00:06:08,659 --> 00:06:07,080 he's very explicit about the fact that 177 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:08,669 these individuals he dealt with he gives 178 00:06:13,100 --> 00:06:11,610 them code names here like Axelrod that 179 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:13,110 this confirmed everything he had ever 180 00:06:16,070 --> 00:06:14,490 heard about the reality of the 181 00:06:17,540 --> 00:06:16,080 extra-terrestrial phenomena now 182 00:06:18,860 --> 00:06:17,550 curiously enough for reasons I don't 183 00:06:20,570 --> 00:06:18,870 understand he won't talk about this 184 00:06:22,129 --> 00:06:20,580 topic anymore on the radio or even at 185 00:06:23,809 --> 00:06:22,139 the conference's there could be a good 186 00:06:25,399 --> 00:06:23,819 reason for that but this is the last we 187 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:25,409 know about his activities viewing the 188 00:06:30,290 --> 00:06:28,370 moon he saw extraterrestrial activity 189 00:06:31,459 --> 00:06:30,300 they didn't tell them this was 190 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:31,469 extraterrestrial but he was able to 191 00:06:35,990 --> 00:06:33,330 discern this from the types of 192 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:36,000 information he was getting now this 193 00:06:40,670 --> 00:06:38,130 could confirm what we've seen over the 194 00:06:42,100 --> 00:06:40,680 years in terms of pictures of 195 00:06:45,140 --> 00:06:42,110 appeared to be structures on the moon 196 00:06:46,249 --> 00:06:45,150 perhaps this is what he was viewing but 197 00:06:47,689 --> 00:06:46,259 it's a sort of thing that you can use 198 00:06:49,550 --> 00:06:47,699 remote viewing to do to see if it can 199 00:06:53,900 --> 00:06:49,560 confirm information that you're getting 200 00:06:55,189 --> 00:06:53,910 from other sources now my first 201 00:06:56,900 --> 00:06:55,199 experience with these sort of targets 202 00:07:01,100 --> 00:06:56,910 came at the farside Institute that I 203 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:01,110 used to participate in my first one of 204 00:07:04,490 --> 00:07:02,130 the first ones I did with this was a 205 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:04,500 crop circle target now here's one thing 206 00:07:07,820 --> 00:07:05,610 I want to mention which is very 207 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:07,830 important we typically refer to these as 208 00:07:11,810 --> 00:07:10,650 a nominally target I don't think that's 209 00:07:12,830 --> 00:07:11,820 a good name for them I think we should 210 00:07:14,420 --> 00:07:12,840 call them something like variable 211 00:07:16,249 --> 00:07:14,430 transition target and the reason is if 212 00:07:17,420 --> 00:07:16,259 you call it an anomaly you're kind of 213 00:07:19,370 --> 00:07:17,430 front-loading the whole session with a 214 00:07:20,779 --> 00:07:19,380 certain intent and when the viewer is 215 00:07:22,879 --> 00:07:20,789 going to view it they're going to almost 216 00:07:24,350 --> 00:07:22,889 pick up the idea that its anomalous as 217 00:07:26,060 --> 00:07:24,360 you know most of the technology around 218 00:07:27,650 --> 00:07:26,070 us was an anomaly at one point it really 219 00:07:29,300 --> 00:07:27,660 depends on where you are in the level of 220 00:07:30,950 --> 00:07:29,310 scientific progress things that are 221 00:07:33,650 --> 00:07:30,960 anomalies one year like airplanes are 222 00:07:37,129 --> 00:07:33,660 not anomalies anymore so this is the 223 00:07:38,510 --> 00:07:37,139 first crop circle I've you know this is 224 00:07:41,180 --> 00:07:38,520 very interesting because at the time I 225 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:41,190 viewed this target I didn't know what a 226 00:07:46,310 --> 00:07:44,490 crop circle was I had never heard of the 227 00:07:48,770 --> 00:07:46,320 term consciously and so I did this 228 00:07:50,659 --> 00:07:48,780 target without any preconceptions about 229 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:50,669 what crop circles were and what I got 230 00:07:55,250 --> 00:07:53,010 were these individuals on the ground 231 00:07:57,820 --> 00:07:55,260 with a circle kind of hills behind an 232 00:08:00,110 --> 00:07:57,830 energy kind of moving in and out and 233 00:08:01,370 --> 00:08:00,120 since as some of you saw my presentation 234 00:08:03,020 --> 00:08:01,380 last year I've been going to England 235 00:08:04,159 --> 00:08:03,030 ever since these sessions to kind of 236 00:08:07,339 --> 00:08:04,169 figure out what was going on here to get 237 00:08:08,810 --> 00:08:07,349 my feedback so to speak this actually 238 00:08:11,810 --> 00:08:08,820 turned out to be a very accurate session 239 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:11,820 now as you know I believe a lot of these 240 00:08:17,180 --> 00:08:14,130 large ones like this milk information 241 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:17,190 from excuse me a windmill hill from 1996 242 00:08:21,050 --> 00:08:19,050 a lot of these are man-made and we've 243 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:21,060 found the people who make these we know 244 00:08:24,740 --> 00:08:23,130 them I actually think I can now identify 245 00:08:26,420 --> 00:08:24,750 the individuals that I drew here in the 246 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:26,430 p3 which is kind of astounding because I 247 00:08:29,689 --> 00:08:27,690 haven't had very many sessions where 248 00:08:32,180 --> 00:08:29,699 actually could name the individuals in 249 00:08:33,409 --> 00:08:32,190 in the drawing but I think actually know 250 00:08:34,730 --> 00:08:33,419 who these individuals are now and yet 251 00:08:36,350 --> 00:08:34,740 here I'm doing this 252 00:08:37,940 --> 00:08:36,360 it took me you know years to figure out 253 00:08:39,170 --> 00:08:37,950 what was actually going on here now I 254 00:08:42,050 --> 00:08:39,180 can identify it so I think this actually 255 00:08:45,500 --> 00:08:42,060 is a very early correct session very 256 00:08:46,910 --> 00:08:45,510 accurate data it seems to be individuals 257 00:08:49,130 --> 00:08:46,920 on the ground a lot of work went into 258 00:08:51,620 --> 00:08:49,140 this site the beans are figuring 259 00:08:54,590 --> 00:08:51,630 something out focus of intention so 260 00:08:57,199 --> 00:08:54,600 forth and so that shows you can get 261 00:08:58,819 --> 00:08:57,209 even these two even these targets that 262 00:09:00,170 --> 00:08:58,829 are so called anomalous if you've spent 263 00:09:01,850 --> 00:09:00,180 some time doing some research you can 264 00:09:02,870 --> 00:09:01,860 actually get information and they're not 265 00:09:05,030 --> 00:09:02,880 so anomalous anymore 266 00:09:06,620 --> 00:09:05,040 now there's a lot of things about chop 267 00:09:08,509 --> 00:09:06,630 circles we still don't understand about 268 00:09:10,249 --> 00:09:08,519 the energy as I mentioned last year 269 00:09:11,300 --> 00:09:10,259 battery failure and so forth but we do 270 00:09:13,100 --> 00:09:11,310 know some of the individuals that are 271 00:09:15,079 --> 00:09:13,110 involved in constructing them and so 272 00:09:16,639 --> 00:09:15,089 this isn't really quite an anomalous 273 00:09:19,670 --> 00:09:16,649 target in the same way it was when I did 274 00:09:21,499 --> 00:09:19,680 it in 1996 I think you see my point this 275 00:09:24,139 --> 00:09:21,509 particular target was the milk Hill 276 00:09:28,129 --> 00:09:24,149 formation of 1997 now it's interesting 277 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:28,139 about this this individual detected 278 00:09:32,389 --> 00:09:29,970 these roaring sounds at the site and she 279 00:09:37,519 --> 00:09:32,399 said his place to break contact with the 280 00:09:39,259 --> 00:09:37,529 real world when I went around to this 281 00:09:40,490 --> 00:09:39,269 particular location I talked to some of 282 00:09:42,650 --> 00:09:40,500 the people in the area and what they 283 00:09:46,449 --> 00:09:42,660 said is they heard roaring sounds that 284 00:09:50,689 --> 00:09:48,800 whatever made those roaring sounds now 285 00:09:52,069 --> 00:09:50,699 the interesting thing is having to with 286 00:09:54,079 --> 00:09:52,079 extraterrestrials here is this 287 00:09:55,790 --> 00:09:54,089 particular viewer we actually did this 288 00:09:57,949 --> 00:09:55,800 session right here in this hotel by the 289 00:10:00,769 --> 00:09:57,959 way when we were using the space for our 290 00:10:02,269 --> 00:10:00,779 classes she didn't like paranormal 291 00:10:03,259 --> 00:10:02,279 topics she didn't like things having to 292 00:10:06,019 --> 00:10:03,269 do with extraterrestrials or anything 293 00:10:07,429 --> 00:10:06,029 kind of spooky or weird so she actually 294 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:07,439 stopped the session she didn't like it 295 00:10:12,650 --> 00:10:11,370 but um the interesting thing is about a 296 00:10:15,259 --> 00:10:12,660 week later she had a sighting of a UFO 297 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:15,269 in Estes Park at night about 30 feet 298 00:10:19,009 --> 00:10:17,370 down from her car very big and she no 299 00:10:20,509 --> 00:10:19,019 longer felt afraid of it so this is kind 300 00:10:22,490 --> 00:10:20,519 of like a reverse example of resonance 301 00:10:24,259 --> 00:10:22,500 we're doing this session actually seems 302 00:10:25,220 --> 00:10:24,269 to open you up to new experiences rather 303 00:10:28,879 --> 00:10:25,230 than just as something to get 304 00:10:31,579 --> 00:10:28,889 information about this is a picture that 305 00:10:32,540 --> 00:10:31,589 someone gave us from an individual that 306 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:32,550 worked for the government who want to 307 00:10:37,490 --> 00:10:34,290 see if we could actually do this target 308 00:10:39,050 --> 00:10:37,500 it's from area 51 s 4 you can see the 309 00:10:42,170 --> 00:10:39,060 make fighter planes in front of the 310 00:10:44,509 --> 00:10:42,180 hangars this is the drawing that the 311 00:10:46,579 --> 00:10:44,519 viewer drew very closed replication of 312 00:10:48,980 --> 00:10:46,589 the picture the viewer was in Salt Lake 313 00:10:50,569 --> 00:10:48,990 City all I told her was would you like 314 00:10:51,650 --> 00:10:50,579 to do a session she said yes I said here 315 00:10:53,749 --> 00:10:51,660 are the coordinates end of conversation 316 00:10:56,179 --> 00:10:53,759 and that she was able to reproduce the 317 00:10:57,679 --> 00:10:56,189 picture pretty closely and so when she 318 00:11:00,050 --> 00:10:57,689 walked around into the hangar she said 319 00:11:01,519 --> 00:11:00,060 she saw silver disks now we can't verify 320 00:11:03,250 --> 00:11:01,529 that because we can't go in there but we 321 00:11:07,939 --> 00:11:03,260 can see that the rest of the session was 322 00:11:10,699 --> 00:11:07,949 accurate this is the Rocketdyne facility 323 00:11:12,470 --> 00:11:10,709 in Simi Valley outside of LA a UFO 324 00:11:13,970 --> 00:11:12,480 researcher asked us to take a look at 325 00:11:17,900 --> 00:11:13,980 this after there was a crash there of a 326 00:11:20,419 --> 00:11:17,910 triangular disc in the late 90s and he 327 00:11:22,429 --> 00:11:20,429 wanted to see if this facility was 328 00:11:24,530 --> 00:11:22,439 connected to LA in any way with 329 00:11:25,699 --> 00:11:24,540 underground tunnels I haven't been there 330 00:11:27,289 --> 00:11:25,709 and I don't know too much about it but 331 00:11:29,090 --> 00:11:27,299 the viewer without any prompting from us 332 00:11:31,069 --> 00:11:29,100 did pick up said this is connected to a 333 00:11:33,079 --> 00:11:31,079 nearby city this base so it's kind of 334 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:33,089 interesting we get some sort of same 335 00:11:37,939 --> 00:11:34,290 sort information that the researcher was 336 00:11:40,039 --> 00:11:37,949 looking for when we do UFO sometimes you 337 00:11:41,299 --> 00:11:40,049 just get the sense of the roundness of 338 00:11:43,309 --> 00:11:41,309 the object there's some level of 339 00:11:45,169 --> 00:11:43,319 verification there the color so forth 340 00:11:47,780 --> 00:11:45,179 the Phoenix lights is something that we 341 00:11:49,369 --> 00:11:47,790 looked at I don't know if these are 342 00:11:50,509 --> 00:11:49,379 flares or not but the first viewer got 343 00:11:52,909 --> 00:11:50,519 something that looks to me more like 344 00:11:54,919 --> 00:11:52,919 flares than really solid objects or 345 00:11:57,109 --> 00:11:54,929 different objects but the second viewer 346 00:11:59,419 --> 00:11:57,119 got something that's a lot like governor 347 00:12:03,559 --> 00:11:59,429 Fife Symington described which is a 348 00:12:05,329 --> 00:12:03,569 large black metallic triangle which 349 00:12:07,489 --> 00:12:05,339 thousands of people apparently saw that 350 00:12:08,780 --> 00:12:07,499 night over Arizona so one viewer got 351 00:12:10,039 --> 00:12:08,790 something that looks like the lights and 352 00:12:15,139 --> 00:12:10,049 the other viewer got something that 353 00:12:17,629 --> 00:12:15,149 looks like the larger object that was 354 00:12:20,749 --> 00:12:17,639 seen earlier in the evening Mexico City 355 00:12:21,889 --> 00:12:20,759 in 1997 we sent the viewer number of 356 00:12:23,749 --> 00:12:21,899 viewers to look at this one of the 357 00:12:27,590 --> 00:12:23,759 viewers kind of described the disc next 358 00:12:30,590 --> 00:12:27,600 to the building as you can see and had a 359 00:12:32,449 --> 00:12:30,600 sense that it was a UFO kind of going 360 00:12:34,489 --> 00:12:32,459 from one destination to another another 361 00:12:36,619 --> 00:12:34,499 viewer described it he got a feeling he 362 00:12:39,069 --> 00:12:36,629 shouldn't be there looking at it another 363 00:12:42,139 --> 00:12:39,079 viewer got a space-age chair and then 364 00:12:44,419 --> 00:12:42,149 described mechanical intelligence with a 365 00:12:46,639 --> 00:12:44,429 pointed head and careful planning and so 366 00:12:48,829 --> 00:12:46,649 we actually can't go inside the UFO but 367 00:12:51,529 --> 00:12:48,839 we got people to locate the object to 368 00:12:53,689 --> 00:12:51,539 identify the size and so forth so that 369 00:12:55,279 --> 00:12:53,699 is some level of contact you get with it 370 00:12:57,439 --> 00:12:55,289 the point I'm making here is that all of 371 00:12:59,179 --> 00:12:57,449 these targets whether it's verifiable 372 00:13:00,939 --> 00:12:59,189 targets or targets that are harder to 373 00:13:03,379 --> 00:13:00,949 verify have some degree of verifiability 374 00:13:05,749 --> 00:13:03,389 it's it's it's never just one or the 375 00:13:07,099 --> 00:13:05,759 other after all if you took this glass 376 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:07,109 and you said you wanted to view it I 377 00:13:11,539 --> 00:13:08,970 mean we'd all agree it's kind of a plain 378 00:13:13,340 --> 00:13:11,549 ordinary target if we threw in some dark 379 00:13:15,379 --> 00:13:13,350 matter and then tossed it into a black 380 00:13:16,669 --> 00:13:15,389 hole and become an anomalous target you 381 00:13:18,379 --> 00:13:16,679 see it all depends on the context and 382 00:13:19,609 --> 00:13:18,389 that's what I'm trying to say yeah it 383 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:19,619 depends on your state of knowledge which 384 00:13:22,130 --> 00:13:21,689 is changing from year to year here it's 385 00:13:23,930 --> 00:13:22,140 one which 386 00:13:25,790 --> 00:13:23,940 I would call more of an imaginal target 387 00:13:28,790 --> 00:13:25,800 this is the grey's galactic gateway near 388 00:13:30,170 --> 00:13:28,800 Earth and I can't verify this unless I 389 00:13:32,270 --> 00:13:30,180 get aboard a grey ship and see one of 390 00:13:34,010 --> 00:13:32,280 their maps it's really a gateway nearby 391 00:13:35,030 --> 00:13:34,020 but it's certainly fun to do one of 392 00:13:36,140 --> 00:13:35,040 these targets once in a while even 393 00:13:37,970 --> 00:13:36,150 though this has zero level of 394 00:13:40,970 --> 00:13:37,980 verifiability with the technology we 395 00:13:45,770 --> 00:13:40,980 have right now we've also viewed 396 00:13:47,300 --> 00:13:45,780 sometimes future future announcements of 397 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:47,310 extraterrestrial activity from a 398 00:13:50,690 --> 00:13:48,930 government source and that's interesting 399 00:13:51,740 --> 00:13:50,700 to do something that would happen in the 400 00:13:53,660 --> 00:13:51,750 future and we sometimes to get 401 00:13:55,340 --> 00:13:53,670 information about that now let's look at 402 00:13:57,500 --> 00:13:55,350 the last part of the we want to look at 403 00:13:58,910 --> 00:13:57,510 here is crash retrievals this is a new 404 00:14:00,710 --> 00:13:58,920 phase of remote viewing something I've 405 00:14:02,930 --> 00:14:00,720 learned about from the woods at their 406 00:14:03,890 --> 00:14:02,940 conference you can take viewers and 407 00:14:04,790 --> 00:14:03,900 actually it's a very interesting way to 408 00:14:06,680 --> 00:14:04,800 use it because you have a lot of 409 00:14:08,450 --> 00:14:06,690 information going in here and where you 410 00:14:10,340 --> 00:14:08,460 don't have a lot information you can get 411 00:14:12,050 --> 00:14:10,350 more information at this site in your 412 00:14:13,610 --> 00:14:12,060 garrison across from Great Basin 413 00:14:15,710 --> 00:14:13,620 National Park you've ever been out there 414 00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:15,720 there's the desert range experimental 415 00:14:21,350 --> 00:14:18,810 station where in 1953 witnesses saw 416 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:21,360 something crash in that area right in 417 00:14:26,330 --> 00:14:23,610 this lake bit and you can see it here 418 00:14:29,420 --> 00:14:26,340 from these pictures we'll get close in 419 00:14:35,810 --> 00:14:29,430 here that there's this large anomalous 420 00:14:38,120 --> 00:14:35,820 triangle now various military sources 421 00:14:40,910 --> 00:14:38,130 told Linda mom how that this indeed was 422 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:40,920 a craft that was very large too heavy to 423 00:14:45,860 --> 00:14:42,810 move too dense to cut so they just 424 00:14:47,690 --> 00:14:45,870 buried it and what we're told is that 425 00:14:49,490 --> 00:14:47,700 remote viewers were later sent to look 426 00:14:51,830 --> 00:14:49,500 at this site and I believe Joe 427 00:14:53,570 --> 00:14:51,840 mcmoneagle found that indeed there was a 428 00:14:54,830 --> 00:14:53,580 crash here but what he got was that had 429 00:14:56,720 --> 00:14:54,840 been moved since then so we have 430 00:14:58,660 --> 00:14:56,730 different types information but it is an 431 00:15:01,780 --> 00:14:58,670 example where you can actually 432 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:01,790 coordinate remote viewing with witness 433 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:04,890 eyewitnesses and military insiders to 434 00:15:08,780 --> 00:15:06,330 kind of get more sense of what's going 435 00:15:10,220 --> 00:15:08,790 on so the point is I think remote 436 00:15:11,750 --> 00:15:10,230 viewing is used best when it's used in 437 00:15:13,190 --> 00:15:11,760 conjunction with other sources because 438 00:15:14,330 --> 00:15:13,200 by itself sometimes you may get 439 00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:14,340 information but you may have to wait a 440 00:15:20,210 --> 00:15:17,250 long time to actually verify what you're 441 00:15:25,150 --> 00:15:20,220 getting so any questions so far but 442 00:15:32,470 --> 00:15:27,920 we have time for Q&A here's one right 443 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:36,590 in this in these brief remote viewing 444 00:15:40,070 --> 00:15:37,850 tests 445 00:15:46,930 --> 00:15:40,080 how could you exclude the possibility 446 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:46,940 that the remote viewers were rather than 447 00:15:53,150 --> 00:15:50,130 clairvoyant sensing something at a 448 00:15:56,360 --> 00:15:53,160 distance they were picking up by 449 00:15:59,300 --> 00:15:56,370 telepathy from your own mind because the 450 00:16:00,500 --> 00:15:59,310 experiment of you knew what the target 451 00:16:02,500 --> 00:16:00,510 was right 452 00:16:04,550 --> 00:16:02,510 therefore it could have been telepathy 453 00:16:06,530 --> 00:16:04,560 right what you're talking about is an 454 00:16:08,270 --> 00:16:06,540 issue when the viewer is actually 455 00:16:09,770 --> 00:16:08,280 viewing the picture perhaps sitting here 456 00:16:12,110 --> 00:16:09,780 on the table than actually going to the 457 00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:12,120 site and one way to get around that is 458 00:16:15,140 --> 00:16:13,530 actually to see if the viewer can pick 459 00:16:16,730 --> 00:16:15,150 up more than is in the picture or more 460 00:16:18,020 --> 00:16:16,740 than even the Tasker knows about and if 461 00:16:19,550 --> 00:16:18,030 they did pick it up like Pat price 462 00:16:21,230 --> 00:16:19,560 picking up these steel medal Gore's 463 00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:21,240 inside the building that no one knew 464 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:22,410 about at the time then you know that the 465 00:16:25,850 --> 00:16:23,850 viewer actually went to the site versus 466 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:25,860 just reading the mind that's called 467 00:16:28,340 --> 00:16:27,330 telepathic overlay and it's definitely 468 00:16:32,420 --> 00:16:28,350 an issue and is something to pay 469 00:16:34,250 --> 00:16:32,430 attention to yep I think the concern was 470 00:16:36,980 --> 00:16:34,260 more than you're looking at the picture 471 00:16:38,870 --> 00:16:36,990 if you if you know the answer or your 472 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:38,880 desired answer and you're sitting with a 473 00:16:42,620 --> 00:16:40,890 viewer there doesn't even need to be a 474 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:42,630 picture he can get the answer directly 475 00:16:48,590 --> 00:16:45,210 from you so the idea of doing remote 476 00:16:50,780 --> 00:16:48,600 viewing where you have profound amount 477 00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:50,790 of information concerning the target and 478 00:16:57,140 --> 00:16:53,250 the answer you want is really quite a 479 00:16:58,550 --> 00:16:57,150 bad idea well that's a thing but if the 480 00:17:00,290 --> 00:16:58,560 viewer comes up with more information 481 00:17:01,580 --> 00:17:00,300 than you even knew about then you knew 482 00:17:02,780 --> 00:17:01,590 they're not they're not reading your 483 00:17:04,550 --> 00:17:02,790 mind I mean that's certainly an issue 484 00:17:06,429 --> 00:17:04,560 all they ever get was what you saw then 485 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:06,439 you could say they were doing that but 486 00:17:09,949 --> 00:17:08,610 it's something to pay attention to but I 487 00:17:11,390 --> 00:17:09,959 don't think you can ever totally exclude 488 00:17:12,650 --> 00:17:11,400 that unless you take actually go through 489 00:17:13,819 --> 00:17:12,660 a lot of protocols and make sure it's 490 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:13,829 double-blind and so forth then you would 491 00:17:16,670 --> 00:17:15,810 exclude that possibility entirely but 492 00:17:19,850 --> 00:17:16,680 it's certainly something to think about 493 00:17:23,030 --> 00:17:19,860 absolutely so what happened after they 494 00:17:25,850 --> 00:17:23,040 found that triangular shadow I'm sure 495 00:17:30,649 --> 00:17:25,860 they did not just say oh well too many 496 00:17:33,889 --> 00:17:32,509 that black can you tell me where 497 00:17:35,509 --> 00:17:33,899 specifically what you're referring to 498 00:17:39,349 --> 00:17:35,519 referring to the Phoenix light triangle 499 00:17:40,639 --> 00:17:39,359 or that triangle in a desert we have to 500 00:17:44,479 --> 00:17:40,649 ask Bob would know about the update on 501 00:17:46,279 --> 00:17:44,489 that i it's not my specialty is there 502 00:17:47,779 --> 00:17:46,289 any update on that but I heard the 503 00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:47,789 briefing myself but I don't remember 504 00:17:53,629 --> 00:17:51,570 what the follow-up was about the dress 505 00:17:55,310 --> 00:17:53,639 site the desert range Experimental 506 00:18:02,930 --> 00:17:55,320 Station is there any update on the